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Ring of Honor Weekly

This week, Pulse Wrestling’s ROH Coverage, already the best on the ‘net, really stepped its game up. Vinny Truncellito discussed ROH’s bargain priced DVDs, Andy Mac reviewed both Take No Prisoners and Dragon Gate Challenge 2. Andy also had a great New Horizons PPV Report, and Norine Stice had an alternate perspective on New Horizons, as well. Mark Allen in Historically Speaking discusses the Stars of Honor Retail DVD, and John Wiswell has thoughts on Pearce leaving ROH, along with a list of Adam’s best matches. All of this leads me to believe I can be brief about ROH’s two major stories this week and then go on to discuss Puro. With all that content detailed above… wait… Wheeler wrote WHAT!? Go give those other columns and reviews a look. They open in separate windows. I’ll be right back when I calm down.

Okay, I’m back. I’m better. How did you enjoy those columns? Great, right? Well, time to tackle the esteemed (ahem) Mr. Wheeler’s comments. Here they are in nice hyperlink form back to his own column, For Your Consideration.

And speaking of ill conceived…
Ring of Honor can blow me.
I used to rally against ROH-bots but truth be told the product started to grow on me. Ring of Honor has a place in the industry and while it isn’t the WWE, it’s a better alternative than TNA. That was why I was so pumped to find out I was going to represent PulseWrestling at their Survival of the Fittest show in Coral Springs, Florida. I was jacked up about seeing the live show for weeks. Aaron was nice enough to give me a sample of matches that I should watch in order to get myself ready for the card, and I began counting down the days.
Then I find out the show’s been postponed.
Why? Soft ticket sales. That is absolutely mind blowing! Soft ticket sales in Coral Springs? The Coral Springs gymnasium is not a major venue. It doesn’t hold thousands of people. Considering this is the first time ROH has ventured into South Florida, I expected this show to be packed. FIP tends to draw in Northern Florida, so I figured this thing would be sold out in minutes. Instead, they sold something like 60 tickets. Sixty. This is downright pathetic.
Look, ROH, I wanted to see you guys. I really did. But frankly, had I not been a writer for this site, I never would have known about this show…and I LIVE IN THE TOWN! No print ads, no radio spots and no TV spots. Coral Springs also has an indie company called Coastal Championship Wrestling, a company known mainly for giving birth to the man who would be MVP. They hardly have the coverage of an ROH, but even they do TV spots. Ring of Honor chose not to. I don’t know if its arrogance, lack of money or just a desire to be “renegade”, but the lack of promotion cost them what could have been a very viable market.
I’ve begged ROH to do things right. I want them to get a TV deal of some sort (even if it’s the old school ECW syndication thing), I want them to fix their website so that there are superstar profiles and I want them to ADVERTISE IN MARKETS WHERE THEY ARE RUNNING A SHOW! This, gentlemen, is unacceptable.

You know what… I started off pretty pissed about this, but tone aside (and you wonder why I sent you a virus!), Andy is pretty much exactly right. Ring of Honor’s attempts at advertising have been pathetic.

Ring of Honor runs occasional television spots during Raw the week before a show is coming to town. With no build and no lead time, this may entice a few to give a new promotion a try, but, generally, many people will have some kind of plans when the first they hear of a show is four days prior. I realize it’s expensive, but without greater coverage of these advertisements for a greater time frame, poor ticket sales in any new area without a huge internet presence are going to bomb.

Furthermore, these commercials look like someone’s freshman AV project. With ECW, the extreme company, this was intentional and part of the charm. With the honorable, classy ROH, it just looks cheap. In fact, visual presentation is severely lacking in many different aspects of ROH’s product. PWG, another independent wrestling company, has far more dynamic match intros and menu interfaces. Chikara has visually unique, drawn covers to their DVDs, while ROH DVD covers often look like something thrown together on Photoshop. The Ring of Honor retail DVDs in particular are lacking in any visual flair to help them stand out from the pack of DVDs from lesser known federations at the back of the store. How will new fans, particularly those who’ve never heard of the company, take it seriously when they are greeted with lackadaisical presentation? Without a professional presentation to prop it up, the negative stigma of wrestling in gyms becomes prevalent in even the most open minded of fans before they even get to the first match, whether live or on DVD.

Once that first match starts, however, the business really picks up! The actual product is great and the storylines are mostly logical and easy to follow… if you follow everything. As an unmarried teacher and accepted ROHbot, even I can barely afford to keep up with ROH’s DVD products, despite their many sales. Then, when I do, I find that very little plot progression takes place on most DVDs. The reason I focus so much on so many Best-Of lists and Story Progression type guides is that it’s nearly impossible for a new fan to figure out what to buy to get a complete story. Ring of Honor on their own offers next to no help in which DVDs are relevant for certain wrestlers and storylines.

Forget figuring out which DVDs to get through Ring of Honor, how about just introducing new fans to the wrestlers via online, official profiles? Well, those don’t exist. It isn’t like El Generico, Delirious, and Jimmy Jacobs, or even Nigel McGuinness and Bryan Danielson, are household names. Fans need to be introduced to these wrestlers. Online profiles are a free and easy way to do this. Hell, I’d write them for free and keep them updated and I don’t even work for ROH. Many other fans would be willing, as well. Once these are accomplished, complimentary highlight videos, including, hopefully, a full match or two, would go a long way to getting people interested in ROH.

When you do figure out who you like and how to follow the company, there’s yet another roadblock. Great shows often get great buzz, after all, so just picking up the shows with the best buzz makes sense. There’s another problem here though, besides price (which sales will keep down. Ring of Honor doesn’t do live commentary, so their DVDs take forever to come out. By the time they do come out, the buzz of the live show has often subsided and great shows that had great word-of-mouth are left to flounder, notably (recently) Vendetta II. This is unnecessary. Flying Prazak and Leonard in for every show might not be financially viable, but flying just one in should be done. Since both are capable at Play-by-Play, simply having a wrestler do color would go a long way towards improving DVD production speed.

All of these issues crop up for the emerging Ring of Honor fan, but the big one is simply hearing of the product. Commercials are merely one form of advertisement. Fliers, particularly at other local wrestling shows and around the venue weeks prior to the show would help business immensely. ROH might not have anyone local to spread these, but dedicated fans in the area would likely be willing if ROH would ship them the fliers. At the very least, this is worth a shot to drive up website traffic and increase awareness that the company exists.

Other measures can be taken to ensure ROH gets their product, which really is great, out to the public. The ones above are merely some of the simplest, cost effective ways of improving ROH. Other ideas include a show in syndication and sampler DVDs at WWE and TNA events, both of which would do a lot for those that are not yet willing to spend for the product, but want to sample it. Ring of Honor has a great product with a lot going for it. But, as Wheeler alluded to, they have a long way going to spreading that product out to the masses and no one to blame for that but themselves.

But hey, if all else fails, just advertise some names that have cache on television from WWE and TNA and hope that does the job. By the way, LAX are returning to ROH!

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13 comments for “Ring of Honor Weekly”

  1. A lot of these exact same problems happened over here last weekend. A UK “Supershow” called Indypendence Day was scheduled for the 1400 seat Wolverhampton Civic Arena. The stars: A lot of ROH talent, some of the better UK guys and Kenny Omega.

    The problem: They relied on advertising through Myspace, Facebook, a badly designed and rarely updated website (no match listings at all, even on the day of the show) and 1 messageboard forum.

    The forum immediately crapped on the idea of another UK Supershow and only warmed up when the New Japan guys were announced.

    The result: New Japan guys got cancelled (due to poor ticket sales, which annoyed a lot of people), the venue was downsized and, when show time came around, less than 500 people made up the biggest show.

    There were no posters, advertisements or fliers in the city, the cheapest tickets priced out casual fans and the show organisers admitted that they tried to market shows ONLY to hardcore wrestling fans. They did get 1 magazine spot (the least read UK wrestling magazine) and an article on the Sun website (5 days before, and still announcing the New Japan guys).

    It just shows that good wrestlers and good wrestling doesn’t matter if you can’t get people to come to your shows.

    Posted by Mark Buckeldee | October 3, 2008, 12:56 am
  2. I get the impression that wrestling organizations, including ROH, depend on Internet advertising which may work for some fans but obviously not for everyone. I also agree that posting bios of wrestling talent is important. After watching my first ROH ppv, I spent time looking for info on the wrestlers I had seen. Some ROH experts, thanks Ace!, were kind enought to fill in the blanks but I’m certain not everyone took the time to do this kind of homework.

    Posted by Norine | October 3, 2008, 4:31 am
  3. Production and all of its many facets far and away the worst aspect of the company. They have poor advertising to the casual fan, who while it isn’t their audience and the people who would most enjoy the wrestling, still are paying customers. In base terms, once the company has a fan’s money for the show it doesn’t much matter if they like the show or not as long as they are treated well. Ring of Honor’s product more than speaks for itself so wrestling fans’ enjoyment should not be a problem. I am sure if you look at RoH’s ledgers you see a ton of repeat business. I know that I and many others on the site are part of this. Hell when a new DVD comes out RoH could probably pre-box a good 3 or 400 of them with pre-addresses to the hardcores and just wait for their checks to clear. That is great, and necessary, but not a sign of growth.

    Ring of Honor’s primary business concern right now should be growth without changing the core product. The product has already changed significantly to appeal to the more casual (read: non-indy) fan, but in all the right way. They need to work on raising their profile. Send out feelers to people that may be spokespeople for their products. Low-level celebrities have attended their shows (Billy Corgan, Redman, others), put them on camera (money permitting) create buzz in other ways. TMZ buzz is still buzz.

    Posted by Andy Mac | October 3, 2008, 7:11 am
  4. Talent = Ring of Honor

    Management = Ring of Lazy

    Posted by Bones Barkley | October 3, 2008, 12:16 pm
  5. if ROH allowed people to join their messageboard, it might also help!

    Posted by chris hughes | October 3, 2008, 12:21 pm
  6. And as I laugh as I write this, if ROH really wanted mainstream press and nationwide attention, all they would have to do is let loose Jimmy Jacobs and Tyler Black at a public rally and corner someone like Sarah Palin in the middle of a speech or just a walk down the street. God knows how much of the national media is following her already.

    Posted by Bones Barkley | October 3, 2008, 12:21 pm
  7. Andy Mac said it:

    “Ring of Honor’s primary business concern right now should be growth without changing the core product.”

    Mass advertising is not cheap and I can attest to that. And I have not seen any guarantees when you sign up for advertising that you will get your money’s worth. While ROHbots will follow ROH anywhere, the point of advertising would be to target the people who have never experienced ROH. I do hope that ROH finds a way to do small scale local advertising when they run a show in order to pull in non ROH fans.

    Posted by Norine | October 3, 2008, 12:41 pm
  8. It’s hard to see a scenario where ROH could experience the type of growth that could lead to consistent house show attendance, TV time, etc. without changing the core product pretty significantly.

    ROH is a product designed for the hardcore fan and like Norine said, they are going to have to bring in a lot more of then that to thrive.

    Posted by Adam | October 3, 2008, 4:51 pm
  9. Adam, I think you misunderstood me. I didn’t mean to insinuate ROH would not survive unless they developed sudden rapid growth.

    I do believe in ROH’s core product and think it’s the best stuff around. I would like to see ROH grow and be able to draw new fans into the live shows.

    The point I was trying to make is that it is not easy for a small organization to expand and it can be very expensive. I would not mind paying more for ROH pay per views but right now that low price is a great selling point. Because of that low price, I purchased their first ppv, then purchased some DVD’s from their site and have not missed a ppv since. I regret not being able to buy more DVDs right now.

    ROH isn’t the only organization to cancel a show or shows due to lack of interest and ticket sales. Someone correct me if I am wrong but didn’t that happen to TNA or WWE a year or so ago?

    Posted by Norine | October 3, 2008, 5:34 pm
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  11. Norine,

    I did misunderstand. My bad.

    Posted by Adam | October 3, 2008, 8:40 pm
  12. Good point re: online profiles. Maybe we should do that for them. Hmm…

    Posted by Matthew Michaels | October 4, 2008, 12:18 am
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